Curse

Tender Wolf · Jul 17, 2008, 07:49 PM // 19:49

For the past hour I've tried several different builds and CAN NOT kill the stupid doppleganger in HM. And most of the time he died but then I died because of a stupid hex or something. Now that is ridiculous.

If the doppleganger (or any enemy for that matter) dies before you, then it should still count and not make you redo it. And with the doppleganger you can't even bring any heals because then he'll heal and you'll automatically lose. How that can be an exact double I don't know...I know I don't have that much health or energy.

majikmajikmajik · Jul 17, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

first dont bring heals, 2nd try use ursan, foes cant use pve skills. if that doesnt work, bring attack hexes (not spell ones) and a block stance.

[Morkai] · Jul 17, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

You're a Ranger no?

Take a pet.

If you're not on your Ranger, let us know which proffession it is and what the secondary is.

On my survivor Paragon all i took was Frenzy, Aggressive Refrain, TNTF! and Vicious attack. He went down in seconds. (This was NM though)

But yeah, either a pet, or PvE skills are the way to go.

MagmaRed · Jul 17, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Learn how to fight the Doppleganger. NM and HM are both quite easy, and wiki has info to help. Stop asking for the game to be made easier (when it is already easy) and start asking people how you can become better.

glacialphoenix · Jul 17, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

You don't need PvE skills to do it, although that should turn the trick for you. I ascended on my Mo/N before NF (and NM/HM) came out, back when everyone was camping out there QQing about how it was impossible to do. I forget what exactly I did for HM, but as MagmaRed already mentioned, there are resources out there that give you advice. Why don't you use those instead?

Phoenix Tears · Jul 17, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

killing dopple is really piss easy, you just need only to bring skills with you, that you poersonally don't will use, that will take lots of time casting or won't help anyhow the dopple to defeat you and finish, the rest you do then with strong spike attacks, while the dopple is wasting its time with useless skills.

the KI of the dopple is really braindead, because the dopple uses ever first buff skills and sortalikes, before attack skills.

So put some skills, like osme useless nature spirits in your bar and skills, that will cause to increase the cast time of skills or so and then spam the dopple with attack skills, like Double Shot, Tripple Shot, Keen Arrow or penetrating/Sunderign Attacks, whiel the dopples wastes al his time casting long 5 second nature spirits, that won't help him defeating you, or even buff your damage in the end, while he keeps casting more spirits, if xyou have more than 1 spirit in your bar ...

toastgodsupreme · Jul 17, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

OMG NERF THE DOPPLE!!!!

Yeah, except for the fact that it's the EASIEST FIGHT IN THE ENTIRE GAME.

/Me = Signet of Midnight + Empathy (Or if you're too lazy to get an elite, Distortion + Empathy)

/A = DAGGERS! (Dopple doesn't use daggers and thus can't use dagger skills.)

Bleh, I could ramble on ALL the ways to kill the Dopple, but no, no nerf is needed. Not before, not now, not EVER.

Be smarter than the game, don't ask the devs to dumb the game down.

Trenixz · Jul 17, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by toastgodsupreme

A = DAGGERS! (Dopple doesn't use daggers and thus can't use dagger skills.)

Actually, the doppelganger can use his axe to perform any melee attack skill, including dagger and scythe skills.

DarkFlame · Jul 17, 2008, 08:53 PM // 20:53

How is this a suggestion? Its already in-game. The Hard Mode button, just don't click it.

RavagerOfDreams · Jul 17, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trenixz

Actually, the doppelganger can use his axe to perform any melee attack skill, including dagger and scythe skills.

/facepalm

take Ursan

srsly........srsly

zwei2stein · Jul 17, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Guess they are right about threads whose author is TW ...

Engage · Jul 17, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

SS+Price of Failure+Enfeeble given that you can go /N.

Infectious · Jul 17, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

[frenzy][dwarven stab][drunken mas][ursan blessing]

WTF those dont count towards 12 char bullshit?

I pwnd U · Jul 17, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Take all spirits and then just hit the guy with your bow from afar. It is full of win.

Tender Wolf · Jul 17, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

I used Retribution and didn't attack, I used pet only skills, and no matter what it didn't work.

What I'm saying is if you kill the dopple that should be it. If you are hexed to death but die after the dopple is dead then it shouldn't make you fail.

Aldric · Jul 17, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

HM Doppelganger is fairly simple to kill in 20 secs.

Take 20-25secs worth of long cast time skills - Nature or Binding Rituals
Take Burning Arrow + Apply Poison

Cast AP before you step on final stone then BA it to death while it pisses around casting useless skills.

It also doesnt use PvE skills so just take Ursan and it dies in about 15secs

Infectious · Jul 17, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Apparently he also refuses to use frenzy.....

Darkobra · Jul 17, 2008, 09:58 PM // 21:58

The doppleganger is perfect as it is. If you're really struggling, use Ursan. I just went for a Sandstorm/Eruption/Ward Against Melee build, moved out of his AoE and let him blindly try to attack me and kill himself.

[DE] · Jul 17, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

You're a ranger, why would you have a hex on your bar in the first place?

Options
1. Use Ursan
2. Pet Bar with all Pet Attacks
3. Spirit Spam - 7 spirits, kill him while he wastes 35~ seconds putting them all down
4. Cripshot - honorable 1v1

LukeD · Jul 17, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

URSAN+ Summon + other crap == GG

i beat him 1st time with ursan lol use it bfore its gone GO GO